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At the rate people around me are getting sick, tho, I am coming to believe that most will have already been exposed to H1N1 before vaccination - so what's the point? My whole family got a "flu" at the beginning of this burst of flu activity - we easily fought it off and made full recoveries over a month ago. One thing I read on the CDC claims that 99% of the flu cases tested this flu season are the H1N1 (tho there is some weirdness in their reporting so that number could be off). So if you've had the flu this year, according to that, odds are you've had the H1N1 and now have antibodies - isn't that the same as being vaccinated?

Map of flu activity: http://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/usmap.htm

--- In native-nutrition@yahoogroups.com, "zebra77a" <zebra77a@...> wrote:
>
> The following was forwarded to me, and now I am concerned and passing
> this onto you. Please inform me what this means?
>
> ** TOXICOLOGICAL WARNING H1N1 VACCINE SHOT HAS NO UPPER LIMIT OF
> THIMEROSAL IN IT **
>
> "The following information will be filed with lawyers throughout the
> country, the public, the media, and an organizational effort is being
> made to inform all Canadians of the pure propaganda statements being
> made by certain members within the Canadian government. It is your job
> to inform and pass this information on to all Canadians to counter the
> propaganda. Lawsuits are being prepared at this time. The
> Pharmaceutical industry in the US has already lost many cases in court,
> for putting Thimerosal in vaccines. Not only is it not safe, it is a
> serious neurological toxin. This poison will be in this years H1N1
> vaccine, at even possibly higher than safe levels, and members within
> the Canadian government, are making claims that there are no safety
> reasons not to take it. Thimerosal is a giant safety concern, and the
> FDA itself in its own papers admitted over a decade ago it should be
> phased out. This is just one adjuvant, not even mentioning the Aluminum
> Hydroxide - leading to female autism, or the Squalene, which can lead to
> a massive immune system response, causing brain inflammation, and many
> other neurological defects, including Lou Gehrig's Disease (1976 Swine
> Flu Shots Coverup).
>
> If what you are about to read concerns you please inquire to the Deputy
> Minister of Health and ask him, why he believes this is safe?
>
>
> Deputy Minister's Office - Health Canada
> Brooke Claxton Building, Tunney's Pasture
> Postal Locator: 0906C
> Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
> K1A 0K9
>
> E-mail: dm_sm@... <mailto:dm_sm@...>
> Facsimile: 613-952-1154
> Teletypewriter: 1-800-267-1245 (Health Canada)
>
> 1. Thimerosal or sodium ethylmercurithiosalicylate, is 49% mercury by
> weight (Wikipedia), and in the body it metabolizes to ethylmercury and
> thiosalicylate. Many lawsuits have been filed and won in court for
> putting a neurotoxin in vaccines. ref.
> http://www.thimerosal-autism-symptoms.com/html/report_5_03.htm
>
> Answer provided by Dr. David Butler-Jones, Canada's chief public
> health officer: "As a multi-dose vaccine, the H1N1 influenza vaccine
> will contain a mercury-based preservative called thimerosal to prevent
> contamination by serious infectious agents from the growth of bacteria.
> Thimerosal also helps stabilize the vaccine... There is no safety
> reason to avoid using vaccines containing thimerosal. The best
> scientific evidence to date shows no link between thimerosal-containing
> vaccines and adverse health conditions, including autism."
> http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2009/10/23/11507706.html
>
> The Reality?
>
> 1. Mitochondrial dysfunction, impaired oxidative-reduction activity,
> degeneration, and death in human neuronal and fetal cells induced by
> low-level exposure to thimerosal and other metal compounds - Geier DA,
> King PG, Geier MR. Toxicological & Environmental Chemistry 2009
>
> "Thimerosal at low nanomolar (nM) concentrations induced significant
> cellular toxicity in human neuronal and fetal cells. Thimerosal-induced
> cytoxicity is similar to
> that observed in AD pathophysiologic studies. Thimerosal was found to be
> significantly more toxic than the other metal compounds examined."
>
> 2. Thimerosal induces DNA breaks, caspase-3 activation, membrane damage,
> and cell death in cultured human neurons and fibroblasts.
> Baskin DS, Ngo H, Didenko VV. Department of Neurosurgery, Baylor College
> of Medicine, Toxicological Science (Aug, 2003).
>
> "We demonstrate that thimerosal in micromolar concentrations rapidly
> induce membrane and DNA damage and initiate caspase-3- dependent
> apoptosis in human neurons and fibroblasts. We conclude that a proposed
> combination of fluorescent techniques can be useful in analyzing the
> toxicity of thimerosal."
>
> 3. Thimerosal induces micronuclei in the cytochalasin B block
> micronucleus test with human lymphocytes. Westphal GA et al.
> Georg-August-University, Gottingen, Germany. Arch Toxicology (January,
> 2003).
>
> 4. Effect of thimerosal, a preservative in vaccines, on intracellular
> Ca(2+) concentration of rat cerebellar neurons.
>
> Toxicology. 2004 Jan 25;195 (1):77-84 14698570 (P,S,G,E,B) Cited:8
>
> "Results indicate that thimerosal exerts some cytotoxic actions on
> cerebellar granule neurons dissociated from 2-week-old rats and its
> potency is almost similar to that of methylmercury.Theof"
>
> 5. Toxic Effects of Ophthalmic Preservatives on Cultured Rabbit Corneal
> Epithelium.
>
> Am J Optom Physiol Opt. 1988 Nov ;65 (11):867-73 3252733 (P,S,G,E,B)
> Cited:6
>
> "After a 1-h exposure to concentrations of thimerosal of .0005% or
> greater, virtually all corneal cells present in established cultures are
> killed. These results suggest that use of ophthalmic preparations
> containing these chemicals may affect the metabolic and proliferative
> capacity of the corneal epithelium adversely.1-h present,"
>
> 6. An analysis by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) of the
> "adverse effects on health of children and other sensitive
> populations from exposure to . . . mercury" conducted under the FDA
> Modernization Act of 1997 was followed by a joint statement issued by
> the US Public Health Service (USPHS) Agencies and the American Academy
> of Pediatrics (AAP),2 and an interim report to clinicians by the AAP3 in
> July 1999, recommending that thimerosal be reduced or eliminated from
> vaccines.
>
> Its clear, Thimerosal is NOT SAFE! Secondly the medical community is
> only discrediting itself and insulting the intelligence of the public in
> claiming there is no adverse side effects to adding it.
>
> Warn everybody. The Doctors and Nurses are being FORCED to take it.
> Many of them are losing their jobs because they full well know about the
> garbage that is in these shots, and refuse to take it! The government
> will push this vaccine like crazy unless you push back HARD NOW. Why?
> Firstly to save face, Secondly because if the Pharmaceutical industry
> can make this one shot mandatory on the public, you will be getting 4-6
> shots a year for their profits margins. And WHO CARES if a pile of
> people end up with a plethora of illnesses and side effects, in fact
> it's good for long term profit .
>
> The issue is about control of your body, control of your health, that is
> the REAL ISSUE HERE. And the same for the Americans, your getting it
> too.
>
> Don't think companies are that ruthless, maybe you should watch this
> video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg-52mHIjhs
>
>
> Alternatives ? Lots : Natural Fighters Olive Leaf Extract and Black
> Cumin...
>
> http://www.scribd.com/doc/7842270/Olive-Leaf-Extract-HIV-Fighter-Yeast-B\
> uster-Viral-killer
> http://www.scribd.com/doc/11865353/Black-Cumin
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